In this compelling discussion, **Jordan Hall**, a public thinker and recent convert, delves into the cosmic conflict between 'the world' and Christ. **Luke Behncke**, a teacher and author, frames the harsh realities of why Christianity is often hated, emphasizing its transformative demands. Meanwhile, **Daniel L. Garner (O.G. Rose)** provides theological insights into suffering and the need for genuine community in the church. Together, they explore themes of beauty, personal encounters with the divine, and the deep existential challenges posed by Christ's message.