Jordan Ether, a Senior Unknown Armies correspondent, joins Frank and Tormsen from 33.3 FM to delve into the intriguing world of Unknown Armies' metaphysics. They explore the unique aspects of avatar and adept roles, detailing the complexities and rivalries embedded in these archetypes. The conversation highlights the paradoxes of magic and the competitive landscape among adept schools, particularly focusing on Cleomancy. Additionally, the enigmatic Comte de Saint Germain is examined, along with engaging topics like unconventional gameplay and character identities.