Jonjo Devlin, deputy editor of The Intelligence and expert on Scandinavian affairs, discusses the International Criminal Court's arrest of Rodrigo Duterte, highlighting the complexities of international justice. The conversation shifts to Sweden's surge in gang violence, particularly among youth motivated by money, revealing deep societal issues. Devlin also honors playwright Athol Fugard, whose works courageously addressed apartheid's injustices, reminding us of the power of storytelling in challenging times.