In this engaging conversation, Jonathan Korman, a noted radical liberal, shares his insights on the tensions between political ideologies, particularly the clash between liberalism and socialism. He critiques the appropriation of right-wing rhetoric in leftist circles, explores the complexities of identity politics, and discusses the evolving definitions of fascism. The dialogue also covers U.S. electoral politics, the intricacies of the Israeli-Palestinian conflict, and the challenges posed by capitalism, shedding light on the moral responsibilities of today's political leaders.