Jonathan Ames

Fraser Nelson, a political columnist for The Times, and Jonathan Ames, the legal editor at The Times, tackle the heated debate over the European Convention on Human Rights. They examine whether leaving the ECHR could truly influence asylum seeker numbers in the UK. Nelson critiques political motivations behind the proposal, while Ames unpacks the legal implications and historical significance of the ECHR. Together, they challenge listeners to reconsider the effectiveness of current asylum laws and the influence of international treaties on British justice.