Jon Matzner

Founder/operator-focused thinker who builds internal AI and automation tools for small businesses; leads discussions on applying AI to solve company constraints and shared examples from his work at Sagan.

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Sep 12, 2025 • 1h

Why Your Team's AI Tools Are Still Just Fancy Shovels (And How to Force the Bulldozer) | Lazy Leverage #72

Join Jon Matzner, co-founder of Sagan, as he dives into the world of AI in small businesses. The discussion covers how founders can effectively streamline operations through meaningful AI adoption. Jon emphasizes differentiating between tactical and strategic AI use to create real value. He also highlights the need for a strong vision and trust within teams, while navigating leadership challenges. Practical tips on integrating AI tools and fostering innovation are shared, providing listeners with actionable insights for transforming workflows.

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