In this engaging discussion, George Wood, a seasoned minister focused on recovery, and Jon Dengler, founder of a nonprofit for the impoverished, share their insights on maintaining hope in ministry. They delve into the importance of community support, redefining success beyond metrics, and the transformative power of presence during suffering. With personal stories of resilience, they advocate for valuing relationships and embracing challenges as a labor of love, encouraging listeners to navigate the complexities of service with gratitude and authenticity.