Thoma Bravo Partner, Chip Virnig, and former CEO of Dynatrace, John Van Siclen, reflect on the challenges and rewards of their careers, including building a customer base, navigating a public company, and the emotions surrounding their listing on the NYSE. They also discuss valuable career lessons like patience, active listening, and mentorship, as well as giving a glimpse into their personal lives.

Thoma Bravo Partner Chip Virnig goes behind the deal with Dynatrace, discussing the complexities of the transaction and the areas of value creation. Former Dynatrace CEO John Van Siclen joins to share his perspective on the growth in enterprise software. The deal became a fascinating case study, borrowing strategies from the Thoma Bravo playbook and deploying them all on the same deal. The podcast explores the acquisition and complex carveout of Dynatrace, the benefits and challenges of carving out a business, the importance of disruption in the technology industry, and Dynatrace's remarkable growth from a venture-backed company to a publicly traded firm.