In a captivating discussion with John Tarrant, a Zen teacher and poet, the rich tapestry of the Buddha's awakening unfolds. Tarrant explores the mythic nature of Buddhist storytelling, emphasizing its connection to grief and personal experiences. He contrasts Buddhist and Catholic perspectives on death and spirituality. Delving into the significance of dreams, he shares how embracing darkness can lead to enlightenment. Tarrant highlights the power of noble conversations and the importance of interconnectedness in our journey toward spiritual growth.