John Papola

John Papola, Founder and CEO of Emergent Order Foundation, dives into the intriguing shift of newcomers toward conservatism. He discusses how the rise of 'wokeness' and gender ideology fractured the left, prompting many moderates to reassess their political stance. The conversation explores illiberalism on both sides and the cultural focus of the new right. Papola also links economic grievances with cultural anxieties and examines the search for meaning post-new atheism, asserting that community and agency can unify diverse right-leaning factions.