This episode features John Carlin, former Acting Deputy Attorney General, and Jeremy Bash, a national security expert and former Chief of Staff at the CIA and Defense Department. They discuss Trump's national security nominations and the creation of the Department of Government Efficiency. The conversation touches on the impact of 9/11 on U.S. foreign policy, the balance between interventionism and isolationism, and the challenges posed by organized online scams. They also emphasize the importance of U.S. leadership in AI, space, and Middle Eastern diplomacy.