Dave Smith, a comedian and libertarian commentator, brings sharp humor and insight to current events, while John Lyle, a history professor and MKUltra expert, delves into government secrets. They discuss Trump's controversial stance on Ukraine, dissect the Epstein case, and critique the military strategies in Gaza. Additionally, Lyle sheds light on the dark history of the MKUltra program, revealing chilling experiments and ethical dilemmas surrounding government mind control. The conversation is a compelling mix of politics, history, and media critique.