Avik Roy, founder of the Foundation for Research on Equal Opportunity, and John Hood, president of the John William Pope Foundation, dive into the emergence of Freedom Conservatism. They discuss its philosophical roots, responding to nationalism's rise, and how it aims to embody classical liberalism. The duo shares insights on the movement's branding, donor reactions, and internal disputes over values and tactics. They also explore strategies for building influence in policy circles and fostering a new generation within the movement.