Join Andrew Stone, a software innovator at Oxide; Rain Paharia, the mastermind behind the Diffus crate; and John Gallagher, an expert in blueprint design, as they dive into the complexities of software engineering. They explore how to identify the need for new tools, particularly for diffing structures, and the challenges of updates and testing. Their enthusiasm for Rust macros shines throughout the conversation, and they share valuable insights on balancing generic designs with practical applications in programming. A fascinating listen for tech enthusiasts!