Join John Flach, design and aviation expert, as he takes us on a thrilling journey through the intersection of design, aviation, and engineering psychology. From the tragic story of John Denver to the role of situational awareness in human-centered design, we explore control systems, cybernetics, and the fascinating relationship between optic flow and flight control. Discover the innovative approach of the Wright brothers and delve into neuroscience with John Boyd's doodle loop. This captivating conversation ends with reflections on the power of synergy and problem-solving.