Christina van Dyke, a professor of philosophy and expert in monsters, joins John Edgar Browning, a researcher of real-life vampires. They delve into the fascinating evolution of vampire lore from folklore to seductive figures in pop culture. The discussion covers the lives of those who identify as real vampires, exploring their struggles and desires. They also examine the philosophical implications of transformation, identity, and how these mythical beings reflect societal fears and aspirations, raising intriguing questions about humanity's boundaries.