In this engaging discussion, Joel Rothman, a recent PhD graduate from the University of Divinity in Australia, delves into the intricate cosmology of the Book of Revelation. He shares insights from his book, explaining how cosmic imagery enriches the narrative. Rothman compares the transformative experiences within Revelation to immersive fantasy literature, inviting listeners to explore the contrast between the chaotic nature of the Roman Empire and the concept of hyper heaven. His critical reevaluation of traditional interpretations offers fresh perspectives on this apocalyptic text.