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Joel Lenz
Head of Communications and public face of Relai, a Bitcoin-only app; led Relai through European expansion and the MiCA licensing process discussed in this episode.
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Oct 28, 2025
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Ep. 41 - Joel Lenz | When urgency hits, retail will return to Bitcoin.
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In this conversation with Joel Lenz, Head of Communications at Relai, they explore Bitcoin's growing role as a store of value and its European regulatory journey. Joel discusses the challenges of obtaining MiCA compliance and how inflation and banking concerns may drive retail interest back to Bitcoin. He highlights the importance of education, tailored outreach strategies for businesses, and the demographics of Bitcoin users. The episode concludes with insights on self-custody solutions and the distinction of Bitcoin as a leading choice in the cryptocurrency landscape.
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