Support us! https://www.patreon.com/mlst   MLST Discord: https://discord.gg/aNPkGUQtc5 We are honoured to welcome Dr. Joel Lehman, an eminent machine learning research scientist, whose work in AI safety, reinforcement learning, creative open-ended search algorithms, and indeed the philosophy of open-endedness and abandoning objectives has paved the way for innovative ideas that challenge our preconceptions and inspire new visions for the future. Dr. Lehman's thought-provoking book, "Why Greatness Cannot Be Planned" penned with with our MLST favourite Professor Kenneth Stanley has left an indelible mark on the field and profoundly impacted the way we view innovation and the serendipitous nature of discovery. Those of you who haven't watched our special edition show on that, should do so at your earliest convenience! Building upon this foundation, Dr. Lehman has ventured into the domain of AI systems that embody principles of love, care, responsibility, respect, and knowledge, drawing from the works of Maslow, Erich Fromm, and positive psychology. YT version: https://youtu.be/23-TXgJEv-Q http://joellehman.com/ https://twitter.com/joelbot3000 Interviewer: Dr. Tim Scarfe TOC: Intro [00:00:00] Model [00:04:26] Intro and Paper Intro [00:08:52] Subjectivity [00:16:07] Reflections on Greatness Book [00:19:30] Representing Subjectivity [00:29:24] Nagal's Bat [00:31:49] Abstraction [00:38:58] Love as Action Rather Than Feeling [00:42:58] Reontologisation [00:57:38] Self Help [01:04:15] Meditation [01:09:02] The Human Reward Function / Effective... [01:16:52] Machine Hate [01:28:32] Societal Harms [01:31:41] Lenses We Use Obscuring Reality [01:56:36] Meta Optimisation and Evolution [02:03:14] Conclusion [02:07:06] References: What Is It Like to Be a Bat? (Thomas Nagel) https://warwick.ac.uk/fac/cross_fac/iatl/study/ugmodules/humananimalstudies/lectures/32/nagel_bat.pdf Why Greatness Cannot Be Planned: The Myth of the Objective (Kenneth O. Stanley and Joel Lehman) https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-3-319-15524-1  Machine Love (Joel Lehman) https://arxiv.org/abs/2302.09248  How effective altruists ignored risk (Carla Cremer) https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/23569519/effective-altrusim-sam-bankman-fried-will-macaskill-ea-risk-decentralization-philanthropy Philosophy tube - The Rich Have Their Own Ethics: Effective Altruism https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lm0vHQYKI-Y Abandoning Objectives: Evolution through the Search for Novelty Alone (Joel Lehman and Kenneth O. Stanley) https://www.cs.swarthmore.edu/~meeden/DevelopmentalRobotics/lehman_ecj11.pdf