EvilMog, a glider pilot and former military cadet, shares gripping stories from troubleshooting networks in Afghanistan, including a heartwarming moment connecting a soldier with his newborn. Joe Sarkisian, a penetration tester, recounts valuable lessons learned during ethical hacking engagements, discussing challenges that arise in network assessments. Both guests illustrate the emotional and technical complexities of their work, highlighting the crucial role of communication and storytelling in high-stakes environments.