Jobst Landgrebe and Barry Smith (played clips)

Adam Hayman, a podcaster known for the Hayman Nature show, joins forces with AI commentators Jobst Landgrebe and Barry Smith to dive into the limitations of artificial intelligence. They explore the Clever Hans analogy, arguing LLMs merely mimic patterns without true understanding. The trio debates the feasibility of simulating evolution and how Gödel's Theorem poses limits on computational minds. They touch on LLM hallucinations and the challenges of creating embodied AI, while pondering the ethical implications of digital simulations and information in life.