How information (and misinformation) spreads online continues to change with the media landscape. Renée DiResta and Ryan continue their conversation on the role of podcasts as a medium, the pitfalls of audience capture, and the dynamics of social media silos. They talk about the ethical responsibilities of influencers and podcasters, the influence of personal relationships in media, and the impact of counter speech.

Renée DiResta is a technical research manager at Stanford Internet Observatory and has briefed world leaders, advised Congress, the State Department, and a myriad of organizations on how online manipulation can take different forms.

🎙️ Don't forget to listen to Part 1 of Renée's interview! Apple Podcasts, Spotify , & Wondery

Renée's book, Invisible Rulers: The People Who Turn Lies Into Reality, is all about the virtual rumor mill and how niche propagandists can shape public opinion.

You can follow Renée on X @noUpside, or check out her website reneediresta.com.

She was also featured in Netflix’s documentary, The Social Dilemma which came out in 2020.

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📚 Grab a copy of The Brass Check: A Study of American Journalism by Upton Sinclair | https://www.thepaintedporch.com/

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