What if the scariest part of building your brand isn’t the algorithm… but your family finding out what you really think?

In this powerful episode, I sit down with my friend and former client Kayla Jury to talk about the messy, raw, and deeply human side of writing your story in public. From the fears of being seen to the nuances of “hero vs. villain” narratives, we unpack what it really means to build visibility when your art overlaps with your personal life.

We explore:

Why your nervous system resists being seen (and how to rewire it)
How unstable childhoods impact creativity, play, and self-trust
Releasing shame around family dynamics when telling your story
The truth about being cast as the “villain” in someone else’s narrative
Writing as healing - and why your art belongs in the world anyway

✨ This conversation is for every creator who’s ever wondered if telling the truth would cost them love. Spoiler: your story matters because of its messiness.

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Find Kayla Jury on Instagram @itskaylajury and YouTube @Kayla_Jury

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