In this episode, Scott interviews Jimmy Kozlow, Data Mesh Enablement Lead at Northern Trust. They discuss the implementation of Data Mesh, focusing on the importance of early innovation and finding good initial partners. They also explore the complexities of scaling Data Mesh and strategies for effectively tackling that complexity. The challenges faced when implementing a data mesh model in complex organizations are highlighted, along with strategies for addressing them. The importance of establishing a common understanding among team members, the challenge of balancing governance and cutting corners, and the significance of connecting with the community are also discussed.