Jim Fitzgerald, a former FBI agent pivotal in capturing Ted Kaczynski, and Sean Fleming, a research fellow specializing in Kaczynski's philosophy, discuss the Unabomber's lasting impact. They unravel the complexities of Kaczynski's anti-technology manifesto and its eerie relevance today. Fitzgerald shares insights on the challenges faced during the investigation, while Fleming explores the troubling revival of anti-technology sentiments in modern discourse. The ethical implications of publishing Kaczynski's writings are also scrutinized, highlighting the fine line between public safety and freedom of expression.