In this engaging discussion, Richard Dawkins welcomes Jill Mytton, a counseling psychologist who specializes in religious abuse and its effects on child development. They delve into the profound psychological impacts of growing up in strict religious sects, particularly focusing on how indoctrination shapes identity and instills fear. Mytton shares insights on the challenges faced by individuals leaving these groups and the importance of building supportive communities. Their conversation also explores the vulnerability of youths to manipulative religious outreach, particularly in university settings.