Jessica Wolfendale, a Philosophy Professor specializing in war crimes, delves into the ethical dilemmas surrounding civilian deaths in Gaza. She discusses the moral obligation of preventing casualties and the implications of indifference towards civilian lives. The conversation highlights the conflict between political responsibility and morality in warfare, and critiques the unequal global responses to civilian casualties based on victim identity. Wolfendale also reflects on the challenges of empathy and justice in addressing these complex moral issues.