Tim Jore, a writer and researcher at Unfolding Word, and Jesse Griffin, a software developer with a focus on biblical texts, dive into transformative concepts of leadership in the church. They challenge conventional views, advocating for a familial approach to church structure. The discussion emphasizes leveraging technology for Bible translation, the need for non-hierarchical leadership, and the importance of collaboration in ministry. Their insights foster a deeper understanding of the church as a living network, urging listeners to rethink traditional practices.