Eric Goode and Jeremy McBride, Emmy-nominated filmmakers known for their work on 'Tiger King' and 'Chimp Crazy', dive into the fascinating, often troubling world of exotic pet ownership. They discuss the ethical dilemmas surrounding captivity, exploring the complex bonds between humans and animals, particularly chimpanzees. Highlighting bizarre stories from 'Tiger King', they reflect on the absurdity of urban animals and the impact of media on public perception. The conversation also touches on the challenges of documentary filmmaking in this chaotic landscape.