Stephen Spinnenweber, a senior pastor known for his leadership at Westminster Presbyterian Church, and Jeremy Byrd, a dedicated pastor studying church planting, join the discussion. They delve into the intricacies of church organization, focusing on mission churches and their transition to self-sustaining congregations. The duo shares insights on leadership challenges, governance structures, and the vital collaboration needed between local churches and presbyteries. Plus, a fun quiz brings humor and camaraderie to the conversation!