Jenny Lec, an expert on species classification, dives into the perplexing question of what defines a species. She explains historical and modern definitions, the chaos of interbreeding, and the intriguing concept of ring species. The chat shift gears to the UK's voting system, exploring its quirky past and the complexities of electing a Prime Minister. With humor and insight, they connect biological diversity with political diversity, leaving listeners with a fun and thought-provoking takeaway.