Jenny Jarvie

Shawn Hubler is a California correspondent for The New York Times, while Jenny Jarvie covers social trends for the Los Angeles Times, and Laura Dickinson is a law professor at The George Washington University. They discuss Donald Trump’s unprecedented use of the National Guard for domestic issues, raising concerns about the implications for democracy and presidential power. The conversation addresses the legal challenges of militarizing law enforcement, the tension between crime narratives and reality, and the potential normalization of such tactics in American governance.