Rupert Spira, a talented potter and author, discusses his artistic journey and evolution from creating clay pottery to expressing his thoughts through words. Joined by Jenny Beal, they explore the deep emotional connections potters have with their work and the transformative experience of surrender during life's challenges. Rupert reflects on his dual pursuit of beauty and truth in art and spirituality, as well as the pivotal moments that shaped his artistic style, including mentorship and personal growth. Together, they celebrate the unique journey of creative transformation.