What is the logic behind Trump’s “chaotic” political strategy? Are Europe and America heading for a divorce? What did it feel like to get ousted as the Speaker of the House on a global stage?

Rory and Alastair are joined by former Speaker of the House Kevin McCarthy to discuss all this and more.

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