Kristin Du Mez, a history professor and author of "Jesus and John Wayne," delves into the complexities of Christian nationalism and its entanglement with American politics. She examines how theological justifications influenced the political landscape during the Trump era. Alongside Jennifer Middlestadt, who specializes in U.S. history, they explore concepts of sovereignty in foreign policy, the evolution of American nationalism, and the intersections of faith and politics. Their insights reveal the gender dynamics and historical fears shaping today's political discourse.