Susan Crabtree, author of 'Fool's Gold' and 'Threaten Us All', and Jennifer Ghilardi, senior policy analyst at the Heritage Foundation, dive into the Democrats' strategy to regain power amidst current challenges. They discuss how the party is rebranding to reconnect with blue-collar voters and the implications of leadership ageism. There's a critique of Gavin Newsom's controversial choices in California, and they explore the ethics of self-funding in politics. The conversation touches on shifting dynamics and the increasing polarization within the party.