Join Jennifer Pattison Tuohy, a smart home tech reporter, and Paulus Schoutsen, creator of Home Assistant, as they dive deep into Matter, the new smart home protocol. They discuss its potential to unify devices and the hurdles still faced in interoperability. With lighthearted banter, they share personal stories while tackling challenges users encounter. Plus, enjoy a fun game segment that connects tech terms to holiday cheer! Listen in for insights on the future of smart homes and the delightful chaos of navigating this evolving landscape.

Today on the flagship podcast of connected meat thermometers:It’s Thanksgiving week, so we’re going to do something a little different. We’re going to make Thanksgiving dinner! Jen Pattison Tuohy, The Verge’s smart home reviewer and reporter, is also an excellent cook. So she’s at home in South Carolina, and she’s going to make us a meal and tell us all about the state and future of the smart home and kitchen gadgets. This episode, fair warning, will make you very hungry. I’m sorry in advance.Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or call us at 866-VERGE11, we'd love to hear from you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices