Elon Musk's alleged drug use, including ketamine, is discussed along with the consequences for his government contracts. They explore the effects and accessibility of ketamine as an anesthetic and recreational drug. The hosts emphasize the need for a nuanced conversation on drug use, critique the resignation of Harvard President Claudine Gay amidst plagiarism accusations, and discuss hiring a new dean. They also touch on the idea of allowing a convicted insurrectionist to return to the White House.

Kara's son Louie Swisher and her brother Dr. Jeffrey Swisher join her to co-host. They discuss Ronan Farrow's new reporting on Elon Musk and Oliver Anthony's hit song 'Rich Men North of Richmond.' They also survey the current GOP primary field and discuss the pros and cons of AI in medicine.

Guest host Dr. Jeffrey Swisher joins for a medical (and Swisher) themed episode. What does full FDA approval of the Pfizer vaccine mean for public health? What about antibody treatments? Team Swisher also discusses the nursing crisis, and the Biden Administration’s new plan to lower prescription drug costs. Plus, Friend of Pivot John Carreyou joins to discuss what’s to come in his new Theranos trial podcast, “Bad Blood: The Final Chapter.”You can find Dr. Jeffrey Swisher on Twitter at @jeffreyswisher, and on substack at jeffreyswishermd.substack.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices