Darrell Steinberg, the mayor of Sacramento, and Jeff Reisig, the district attorney of Yolo County, dive into California Proposition 36, which proposes stricter penalties for theft and drug offenses. They discuss how it contrasts with Proposition 47's emphasis on treatment, and how rising retail theft and homelessness relate to the state's criminal policies. The conversation covers the challenges of funding treatment for addiction and the realities of crime post-pandemic, urging listeners to think critically about justice and community impact as they approach the vote.