Mark Pearson, President and CEO of Equitable Holdings, leads a team aiming for cultural transformation in a 163-year-old firm. Joined by Das Narayandas, a Harvard Business School professor, and COO Jeff Hurd, they discuss how the 2018 IPO sparked a need for innovation and faster adaptation. They explore building organizational muscle, breaking down silos through boot camps, and the importance of internal ownership for lasting change. The conversation highlights balancing respect for history with a future-focused approach, and the ongoing evolution of their New Ways of Working initiative.