In this fascinating discussion, Jeff Foster, a former orca capture specialist turned conservationist, shares his remarkable journey from the captivity industry to advocating for orca freedom. He delves into the emotional challenges of transitioning Keiko to life in the wild, highlighting the intense preparations and the bond between orca mothers and their calves. Jeff recounts the pivotal moment when Keiko encounters wild whales, leading to unexpected chaos and a desperate search. Ethical dilemmas surrounding training and the effects on animal welfare take center stage, making for an eye-opening narrative.