Jay Wortham, a writer for the New York Times Magazine, delves into the tensions between the arts and politics, especially since the Trump administration took over institutions like the Kennedy Center. He discusses how artists are severing ties with cultural centers, the role of grassroots movements, and the shift towards new platforms like TikTok for artistic expression. The conversation also touches on the evolving nature of America's artistic identity amidst these political changes, highlighting a growing skepticism towards authority.