In this conversation, Javier Leiva, host of the Pretend Podcast and expert on con artists, reveals the shocking truths behind Frank Abagnale's notorious fabrications. They discuss how Abagnale, far from the suave criminal depicted in film, was actually imprisoned while claiming to be a pilot and doctor. Leiva draws parallels between media portrayals and real-life fraud, critiques how Abagnale's inflated mythos shapes public perception, and highlights the psychological thrill of deception that entices both criminals and audiences alike.
