Jasper Tulling, a strategic advisor at the Climate Litigation Network, and Noah Walker Crawford, a research fellow focused on climate change at the London School of Economics, delve into a significant Dutch court ruling about Shell's emissions. They discuss how the decision affirmed Shell's legal obligation to reduce global emissions, despite media portrayals of a win. The conversation highlights the complexities of corporate accountability and critiques reliance on unproven climate technologies, advocating for immediate action over future solutions.