In this conversation, Jason van Tatenhove, an expert on extremist groups, shares his firsthand experiences with the Oath Keepers, linking their origins to significant events like the Bundy Ranch standoff and the January 6 insurrection. He discusses how emotional appeals in politics fuel extremist factions and reflects on the ideological clashes within groups such as the Proud Boys. Van Tatenhove explores whether storytelling can bridge societal divides and the dangers posed by the growing radicalization of far-right movements.

In this compelling discussion, legal analysts Michael Popok and Karen Friedman Agnifilo, along with commentators Jessica Denson and Texas Paul, dive deep into the details of the January 6th hearings. They tackle the serious implications of witness tampering and share insights on Trump's chaotic Oval Office meetings. Former Trump attorney Michael Cohen sheds light on the alarming efforts to manipulate narratives, while Jason Van Tatenhove and Stephen Ayres provide personal accounts of their involvement in the insurrection, sparking crucial discussions on accountability and the future of democracy.