In celebration of 20 years, Debbie Millman chats with tech pioneers: Bill Moggridge, co-founder of IDEO, who shares insights on the user-centered design of the first laptop; Jason Kottke, a blogging legend, discussing the evolution and ethics of online curation; Anil Dash, an advocate for humane tech, who critiques social media's impact and its moral responsibilities; and Kevin Kelly, co-founder of Wired, who explores technological inevitability and the ecosystem of innovation. Together, they reflect on how these advancements shape our daily lives.