Guest Jason Kirk, senior editor for The Athletic and co-host of the Shutdown Fullcast, talks about his debut novel and his Evangelical upbringing. The hosts also recap championship games, discuss Lamar Jackson's performance and strong defenses, reflect on the Detroit Lions' disappointing loss, analyze Brock Purdy's performance, and explore Christianity in fiction and pop culture. They also cover the success of a book, supporting refugee charities, and encounters with inconsiderate dog owners.
