Brian Bucklew and Jason Grinbalt, co-founders of Freehold Games, dive into their monumental 17-year development journey of the science fantasy roguelike, Caves of Qud. They discuss the intricacies of balancing bespoke and procedural design, emphasizing the importance of community input and technological evolution. Listeners will find insights into the unique water ritual mechanics reflecting real social dynamics and the unexpected player creativity that leads to bizarre game moments. Their passion and challenges make for an engaging tale of indie game development.