Jason Clampet, Skift’s Chief Product Officer, shares his insights on travel with Rafat Ali. They discuss the importance of a relaxed travel mindset and balancing local with international trips. Jason's pet peeves about hotel usability spark interesting debates, especially regarding practical bathroom features. They cover culinary experiences, emphasizing the joy of local dining. The conversation also delves into the evolution of travel habits and the value of souvenirs, with tips for navigating new destinations and staying fit on the road.