Jared Smith, a civil engineer specializing in transportation policy, and Jennifer Ott, an environmental historian and author, delve into Seattle's complex relationship with its waterfront. They explore the historical significance and emotional ties to the Alaskan Way Viaduct, reflecting on the moral dimensions of urban development. The discussion also touches on the challenges of replacing aging infrastructure post-earthquake, the integration of seawall improvements, and the often-overlooked impacts on indigenous populations. A thought-provoking dialogue on urban resilience and community values ensues.